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Dividing the Pots & Pans

When you’re getting a divorce, how do you figure out who gets the pots and pans? Who gets the china, the knick-knacks, the photo albums, the lamps, the dishes, the electronics, and the furnishings? How do you divide the myriad household items collected over years of marriage?

Honorable Judge Robert Schnider (Retired) began his career as a family law attorney in 1971. He was among the first group of lawyers to become a Certified Family Law Specialist when the California State Bar created the designation. Judge Schnider is unique in the family law court system because his entire career has been focused on family law matters. Where most judges assigned to the family law department have backgrounds in criminal law or something else unrelated to family matters, Judge Schnider knows family law inside and out.

When asked how he dealt with dividing the pots and pans in his courtroom he said he never objected to dividing the furniture.  He developed a method he said often led parties to settling their property issues.  He required that parties create one list that set forth every item they wanted him to rule on.  The list would contain the numbered items, any party’s contention the item did not in fact exist, each party’s contention as to who had the item, each party’s contention as to separate property or community property, and each party’s contention as to fair market value.  If they wanted to include purchase price they could, but purchase price wasn’t as important as the current value.

The parties could start off with two separate lists if they wanted, but what they presented to the court had to be one combined list.

Of course, this exercise involves a lot of work that can’t be foisted off onto the attorney. Judge Schnider admitted that more often than not, parties would get mad in the middle of this exercise and exclaim that it was a waste of time or that the judge was being a jerk, but then they would become reasonable and settle the case.

On the rare occasion they did not, Judge Schnider said he could usually try the case in a few hours and often rule from the bench, keeping the attorney fees down.  There was the occasional case where he spent several days with testimony about the physical condition of each item, the provenance of many items, the market research regarding values, et cetera, but those were the exceptions.

Financial Infidelity

According to a survey of more than 200 American consumers, 80% of couples have at least one member who spends money their spouse does not know about. Almost 20% of married individuals have a credit card with a balance unknown to their spouse. 38% of those with secret spending habits and credit card balances worry their spouse would consider divorce if they ever learned of the Financial Infidelity. (PacDivorce.com)

FINANCIAL INFIDELITY
Originally posted on ASeriousGirl.com

The other day I came across an article about “financial infidelity”. Wikipedia defines financial infidelity as “a term used to describe the secretive act of spending money, possessing credit and credit cards, holding secret accounts or stashes of money, borrowing money, or otherwise incurring debt unknown to one’s spouse, partner, or significant other. Adding to the monetary strain commonly associated with financial infidelity in a relationship is a subsequent loss of intimacy and trust in the relationship.”

Basically, according to the Internets, married people are cheating on each other with money.

Within a week of our moving in together, Mike had added my name to his checking account and I’d closed mine out and deposited all of my funds into his account. I wouldn’t recommend this to all couples, for in some situations that could be a really stupid thing to do. Yet in our case it made sense. For one thing, I had excellent credit and a knack for data entry, while Mike made lots of money that he never took to the bank. He used to get all his bills in red envelopes, not because he couldn’t afford to pay them, but because he never had money in the bank. Instead, all his money was scattered across the kitchen table, shoved into cracks in the walls to keep out drafts, tucked into books like so many bookmarks, and wadded up in the dryer lint catcher. It drove me crazy. So when we agreed to move in together, we agreed to a joint bank account so that I could manage our finances. And manage them I did! Every night when Mike came home from work he would put all his cash in a cigar box we kept next to the bed. Every morning I would deposit his cigar box cash at the bank. I paid all our bills, balanced the checkbook, and watched our budget. By the time we married we had zero debt and a nice little nest egg. Then we moved to New York and blew it all. Then we paid down our debt again, built another nice little nest egg, and moved back to California.

The value of a man who, without complaint, hands over his paycheck every week, is not lost on me. I know how lucky I am to have a partner who is so careful of his spending, so sincere in his desire to help me build the future we want for ourselves. It’s a blessing to know that we have the same goals in mind and that we’re both doing the best we can to meet them. Which is why the thought of financial infidelity is so absolutely horrifying. Aside from death or actual infidelity, I can’t imagine many things more terrifying than discovering that my husband has secret credit card debt. Or secret gambling debt. Or secret anything.

I thought about all this when I read the article, then I googled “financial infidelity” and found 809,000 more articles, and with each word I read I climbed higher and higher on my money-management pedestal. Patted myself on the back and told myself how superior we are because we would never lie to each other about money. We’re better than that. And then I remembered the parking ticket.

If I get a parking ticket and send the check off and don’t say anything to Mike about that $55 – is that financial infidelity? What if I go shopping and tell him I only spent $100, but I actually spent $350? We each have a budgeted personal allowance of $80 a month and Mike never spends that much, but in the past I have spent three times my allotted amount. Yet I’ve never told him (until now). I’ve just let him think I stay within my budget because I don’t want him to get mad, and it’s not like he ever looks at our budget sheets because he totally trusts me to take care of it – so am I cheating on my spouse with money?

AM I A CURRENCY INFIDELITE?

What do you think? Oooh, touchy subject, this is. Money! Scary stuff, I know. But I’m curious. What do you think?

How Men Heal from A Break Up

Today’s guest post is by James E. Walton, Ph.D. Dr. Walton will be a featured speaker at the Second Saturday Divorce Workshop June 11, 2011, where he will discuss the emotional divorce and how to help your children cope with the split.

HOW MEN HEAL FROM A BREAKUP
By James E. Walton, Ph.D.

Men pride themselves on feeling powerful, competent and effective in their world. They receive a sense of fulfillment in feeling successful and doing well. Men take great pride in being independent and self-sufficient.

Then, they fall in love. They allow themselves to be vulnerable to another, they get close and sometimes they end up getting hurt and their hearts get broken.

Surprisingly, men generally are the first to fall in love and the last to fall out of it. Men have more difficulty handling their emotions than women because they have been trained to be independent so they develop fewer skills for handling their emotions. They become emotionally overwhelmed easily and demonstrate it by shutting off their emotions and withdrawing, or going into denial. All of this is a bid to cut themselves off from those overwhelming feelings of hurt and pain.

In the process, those feelings lie dormant and are never healed. If they don’t heal those feelings, they don’t allow themselves to fall in love again and they’ll miss out on one of the most rewarding, healing and satisfying experiences in their lives; that of falling in love again.

When men are in pain from a break up, they go right into feeling mode and become overwhelmed by those feelings resulting in shut down, paralysis, withdraw or angry bitterness. Men cannot make good decisions for themselves or anyone else under those conditions.

It’s best for them to throw themselves into an activity or project that they love doing. While they’re doing the activity they love they’re also processing the painful feelings of a break up and this can contribute greatly to the healing of those feelings.

Dr. James E. Walton, Ph.D. is a licensed Marriage & Family Therapist with a private practice in Sherman Oaks. Log onto his website at LAtherapist.com or call 818-753-4865.

Top 5 Reasons to have a Collaborative Divorce After 50

The following is a blurb from a fabulous article written by Tracy A. Timby, a lawyer and mediator in Newtown, Pennsylvania. I found the article on NewtownPatch.com and I’m sharing it here because I think that any couple who has decided to divorce, over fifty or not, should read it before filing papers. Actually? Any couple in the middle of a divorce should read it, especially if they’re in the middle of a litigated divorce, because no one has to keep litigating once they’ve started.

Divorce files are public record and all court appearances are open to the public. In a typical litigated divorce, the court file will contain details about income, retirement funds, investments, value of your home, mortgage balance, all debt, names and ages of your children, your age, health status, documentation of any drug or alcohol issues, allegations about your parenting, marital misconduct, credit worthiness, and much more.

In a collaborative divorce, all of the above is shared only with the people directly involved in the case and only upon agreement of both parties. The paperwork filed is what is necessary to process the divorce and document the agreement of the parties.

If that information alone isn’t reason enough to choose collaboration over litigation, I don’t know what is.  But that’s just my opinion. If you’re not convinced, head over to NewtownPatch.com and read the full article.

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Honest, Blunt & Brilliant: The Problem with Court

This is the fourth and final installment of Honest, Blunt, & Brilliant: Interviews with Attorney Leslie Ellen Shear. This week she talks about some of the problems with California’s family law courts.

“Family courts have been the stepchild of the judicial system all over the world for all of history. They don’t receive the percentage of trial court funding proportionate to the number cases, complexity of cases, importance of cases to individuals involved or the importance of the wellbeing of families and children to the society as a whole. The caseload and the budgets do not compute.”


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Honest, Blunt & Brilliant: “A” Stood for Alternative
Honest, Blunt & Brilliant: Child Development
Honest, Blunt & Brilliant: Custody Matters

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Learn more about Leslie Ellen Shear at CustodyMatters.com.

May Newsletter: Retiring?

Who Wants to Retire?

What we have learned over time about retirement is that people in their twenties don’t plan because they think they’ll never die. People in their thirties don’t plan because they are too busy building careers and keeping up with the Joneses. People don’t plan during their forties because they’re too busy paying off their kids’ college tuition. Most don’t start planning until their fifties, sixties, and seventies and sometimes that’s too late. It’s not too late for you. When are you going to plan? Is your plan current? Know that laws change every year and plans need to be reviewed and updated to reflect these changes.

We are pleased to announce that we’ve joined Wealth Counsel, the premier Estate Planning organization for Estate Planning Attorneys. We offer Estate Planning services to clients who are considering reviewing, renewing, or initiating their estate plan. We can draft your simple or complex will, a living trust, or a more complex and elaborate wealth transfer plan. Call us today. We are here to serve you.

On another note…

Let’s Bring Back That Loving Feeling

Dr. Mark Goulston wrote an article titled, Human Cooling, Global Warming, & Childhood Obesity, that reflects his observations of our society today. How we’ve replaced listening with lecturing, taking responsibility with excuse-making, contentment with immediate gratification, value with ROI, giving with taking. This is not true for all people, but, unfortunately, it is true for many. Why? Why have we replaced joyful laughter with laughing at others, and gratitude for our blessings with disappointment for what we lack? According to Dr. Goulston, we’ve done it because we’ve lost sight of life’s positives. We grasp at ‘stuff,’ to fill the gaping hole left behind.

The more we make excuses, blame others, react without listening, and indulge in resentments, the more likely we will consume, buy, take, and grab to fill the void. The more we listen, contemplate, give to others, and take responsibility for our actions and choices, the more complete and whole we begin to feel. Dr. Goulston recommends the following powerful exercise to anyone who wants to bring back more of those loving feelings.

1. Think of someone you are grateful to, why you are grateful to them, and the difference they have made in your life. Contact them (or a surviving family member if they have passed) and tell them. Thank them.

2. Think of someone to whom you need to apologize. Contact them and apologize. If it’s been a long time say, “This is a long overdue apology, but time slipped away and I felt too embarrassed to contact you. I’m contacting you now to tell you I ____________________. I was wrong and I am sorry.” If you use email, write in the subject line, “A long overdue apology,” which should get their attention.

This exercise will uplift you and give you a new attitude towards life. It will be easier to take care of your health and you will be able to model these positive, powerful behaviors for your children. To read Dr. Goulston’s article, click here.

Best wishes,
Ron Supancic, CFLS and Robert Borsky, Esq.
Partners at The Law Collaborative, LLP

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What Every Client Should Know

By Robert Borsky, Esquire

Did you know that if you use an Apple iPhone, iPad3G, or a Google Android system phone, these devices are gathering information on you? Recently two data collection researchers, Alastair Allan and Pete Warden, have discovered that Apple has been Collecting data on their purchasers’ of iPhone and iPad3G.  According to the research, the operating system “iOS 4” has an hidden file.  The file is known as the “consolidated.db” file, and it stores your geolocation, the date and time at regular intervals.  The data is collected by the device, and then sent back to Apple. They know a lot about you from the history, and they know where the device is located – not necessarily where you are unless you are carrying the device.

You allowed Apple to track and you consented to the iPhone EULA, [End User Legal Agreement] which stated:

When you interact with Apple, we may collect personal information relevant to the situation, such as your name, mailing address, phone number, email address, and contact preferences; your credit card information and information about the Apple products you own, such as their serial numbers and date of purchase; and information relating to a support or service issue.

According to the researchers, Alastair Allan and Pete Warden, you may prevent Apple from collecting data from your iPhone or iPad3G, by selecting the Encrypted iPhone Backup when you connect to iTunes.

The Wall Street Journal interviewed a security analyst, Samy Kamkar and discovered that Apple is not the only one collecting data, Google is doing the same with the Android systems.

Click here to read more…

Fortunately, Apple recently announced that they will fix the tracking bug.

Honest, Blunt & Brilliant: Custody Matters

Ron and Robert had the opportunity to interview Attorney Leslie Ellen Shear at the Pepperdine Law School Consensual Dispute Resolution seminar in 2010. Leslie Ellen Shear is a graduate of UCLA Law School, a California State Bar Board Certified Family Law Specialist and Certified Appellate Law Specialist, and she’s the author of numerous published opinions. Ron and Robert have known her for over twenty-five years and she is one of their most respected colleagues. Honest, blunt, and brilliant, Leslie Ellen Shear is a true powerhouse.

This week Attorney Shear finishes her conversation on child development, then goes on to discuss move-away cases, frequency of contact between children and parents, and the current problems in the California Family Law courts.

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Honest, Blunt & Brilliant: “A” Stood for Alternative
Honest, Blunt & Brilliant: Child Development

Don’t miss another episode! Subscribe to Ron and Robert on Divorce on iTunes and tune in next week for the final episode in this four-part series, Honest, Blunt & Brilliant: The Problem with Court.

Learn more about Leslie Ellen Shear at CustodyMatters.com.

The Moment I Knew

Where were you the moment you knew your marriage was over? Huff Post Divorce put together a great little video featuring clips from a “Moment I Knew” meetup event in Tribeca, New York City. On Tuesday, April 5, groups gathered in New York and Los Angeles to share stories about the moment they knew their marriage was really over.  From Huff Post Divorce:

“Capacity crowds streamed into Macao Trading Company in Tribeca and Palihouse Holloway in West Hollywood, respectively, to sip cocktails, nibble on appetizers, and watch a total of 21 performers (about 10 on each coast) riff on the darkly hilarious, deeply heartfelt details of the all-important moment they realized, oh boy, it’s over.”

This short video gives a little glimpse into the evening’s entertainment and while it certainly doesn’t make light of divorce, it does remind us that the old adage is sometimes true: “We’ll laugh about this later.”

To find out about the next Huff Post “Moment I Knew” meetup, click here.

To find out how to host your own “Moment I Knew” meetup, click here.

Or join the Twitterverse “Moment I Knew” conversation by tweeting to @HuffPostDivorce (hashtag: #themomentiknew).

Second Saturday = Self-Empowerment

Just a quick reminder that our next Second Saturday Divorce Workshop is this Saturday, May 14 at our new office in Woodland Hills.  Register before 4 p.m. Friday, May 13 and save 50% on the registration fee. Register today by calling (888) 852-9961 or register online at TheLawCollaborative.com.